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Synthetic Oil Guy
08-24-2008, 03:27 PM
Hello everyone! :) Allow me to introduce myself. My name is Steve and I am a new member here. As I have time available, I hope to help as many of you out as possible with your automotive questions. I have a broad range of automotive experience in the automotive industry including 25+ years in the automotive repair/maintenance/tire industry, 22 years as an independent AMSOIL synthetic lubricants dealer, S.C.C.A. experience, ASE certified, B.F.Goodrich T/A Certified Tire Specialist, blah, blah. I've been around the block a few times anyway. I also was the proud owner of a 1969 Yenko Camaro for 22 years. :)


Well anyway, I hope I can be of help here to folks. :)

jimj
08-24-2008, 04:04 PM
Ok, I'll start it off. The topic about what octane to use in a stock LT1 comes up frequently with plenty of opinions. What does the pro (specialist) say:confused:

MikeCio1
08-24-2008, 06:04 PM
With crazy gas prices that is a good question.
The answer I always got with my LT1 and LS1 was always. "whatever you can get away with"

Camaro502z
08-24-2008, 08:41 PM
That's a great question, and I'm also interested in the response. Since all late model Camaros come with knock sensors, correct me if I'm wrong but a lower grade gasoline will limit the engines performance since the knock sensor will retard the timing. If it were my Camaro and it had a LT1 motor I would use nothing lower than middle grade gas. What's your opinion sir?

Synthetic Oil Guy
08-24-2008, 09:32 PM
That's a great question, and I'm also interested in the response. Since all late model Camaros come with knock sensors, correct me if I'm wrong but a lower grade gasoline will limit the engines performance since the knock sensor will retard the timing. If it were my Camaro and it had a LT1 motor I would use nothing lower than middle grade gas. What's your opinion sir?

I agree with everything you've said. :) Following the owners manual with regard to octane recommendations can never hurt. Keep in mind, the price difference between the Regular, Super and then Premium isn't much at all so the difference per fill up might be only $2-$3. Not a huge issue I don't think.

jimj
08-24-2008, 09:50 PM
Ok, I'm with you on that one.
Here's another one.(or two)
I use Castrol Syntec motor oil in one of my cars and Quaker State 'Q' in another, following the grade stated for each in the owners manual. Neither car sees high mileage nor hard driving. The question(s) is/are: Should I stay with synthetic motor oil? Is there a difference in one synthetic to another that I should be aware of? Finally, I will be changing my diff. fluid soon, Should I go with a synthetic there. The car in this case in a '93 Z-28.
Thank you for your time:)

Synthetic Oil Guy
08-24-2008, 10:23 PM
Ok, I'm with you on that one.
Here's another one.(or two)
I use Castrol Syntec motor oil in one of my cars and Quaker State 'Q' in another, following the grade stated for each in the owners manual. Neither car sees high mileage nor hard driving. The question(s) is/are: Should I stay with synthetic motor oil? Is there a difference in one synthetic to another that I should be aware of? Finally, I will be changing my diff. fluid soon, Should I go with a synthetic there. The car in this case in a '93 Z-28.
Thank you for your time:)


Hello Jim. :) There are substantial differences amongst synthetic oil brands, just as there are with cars, etc. My web site has a lot of information on this topic including test results of AMSOIL vs other brands. You may be surprised with what you learn. --> www.lubedealer.com/HiTechOilCo

With off the shelf discount auto parts store synthetic oils, I personally don't think there is generally much of a difference between them, with a few exceptions. With AMSOIL, you can expect lower engine operating temperatures, lower maintenance costs, improved fuel economy, an internally cleaner engine, reduced emissions, superior high and low temperature engine protection, usually a slightly quieter running engine and even a mild power boost.

Many of the store bought, "synthetic oils", aren't really a synthetic oil in the traditional sense of the term, which means a base oil derived from synthetic PAO or Ester base stocks, but instead are merely a more highly refined petroleum oil. The take on this is since the more highly refined petroleum oil has so many man-made processes in it, that this makes it, "synthetic". I personally think that is very deceptive and this, "synthetic oil", although it is superior to a less refined petroleum oil, still doesn't offer all the superior characteristics of a true PAO or Ester based synthetic oil.

As you can see, it does get a little bit technical. Far more to know about motor oils than most people would ever imagine. :)

Here is one test result link I think you will find very eye-opening -

http://www.amsoil.com/graphs/sso_4ball_large.gif

Also, here is a link to a fantastic article about synthetic oils in general -

http://www.getahelmet.com/jeeps/tech/syntheticoil/

2002Z4CSS
08-25-2008, 07:08 AM
Welcome!:)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b24/gomaro/greg2.jpg

jimj
08-25-2008, 04:02 PM
Very involved but interesting reading of the links provided by 'The Guy'
Can Amsoil be purchased 5/20 vs 0/20 and can it be bought through 'regular' parts stores (Autozone etc.)
What about the question re diff. fluid?

MikeCio1
08-25-2008, 04:13 PM
I have been following this oil thing recently. I think my next fluid change will consist of Royal Purple. It has the right amount of everything and alot of tests are showing it can actually increase HP and is superior on preventing dry starts and engine wear. I have already changed to RP in my differential.

jimj
08-25-2008, 04:28 PM
Good, Mike re Royal Purp. I was going to ask 'the guy' about this product but figured I posted enough (for now).

Camaro502z
08-26-2008, 07:13 AM
Mike Royal Purple makes great products, and I also use Royal Purple in my rear end (car) and as you know if any product can be thoroughly tested I put them through the paces. Since we sell Royal Purple here, I thought about switching to the motor oil, but after six years of hard running with Mobil One without failure, I decided to continue using it. I have a friend that builds some the the best NHRA Super Stock Big Block motors in the country and he informed me that in his opinion after disassembling many engines, Mobile One is one of the best out there.

MikeCio1
08-27-2008, 08:54 PM
I use Mobile 1 in my HHR. And I am very pleased. It is probably the best "Auto Store" oil availbale. But if RP can increase HP, is going in the SS. I will be getting with you when I am ready for an oil change for pricing.

Whats everybodys favorite oil filter??? I have been using Fram.

jimj
08-28-2008, 06:59 AM
Another frequent, but very interesting topic. A few years ago on another GM car site, this topic came up and an independent engineer's work was posted. I, unfortunately didn't save it (stupid!), but his work was extensive in the analysis of both 'regular'(Fram etc) and 'high end' (Mobil 1 etc) oil filters. Two things stood out to me: 1.)Fram and I believe Wix make the majority of filters and sell them to others who put their name on them. 2.) He rated each oil filter and although I can't recall them all I do remember that A/C Delco and Mobil 1 were a virtual tie as the best out there. A/C Delco getting the nod as best buy due to the cost being a lot less than the Mobil 1. I will check with the moderators of the other site and see if I can come up with the piece and post it here.

jimj
08-29-2008, 09:14 AM
What happened to 'The Guy'? Did the mention of Royal Purple drive him away?:confused::rolleyes:

Camaro502z
08-31-2008, 05:41 PM
Maybe the conversation got a little sticky! I remember when I attended a show at the Ernhart race facility, I saw numerous large containers with Penzoil labels on them and I asked a member of the team was that the oil the ran in their race cars and he replied "No, those containers are filled with Mobil 1, because Penzoil was one of our sponsors we use the yellow containers" he told my buddy and I that Mobil 1 was the best oil they've seen to stand up to 500 laps of racing and after engine disassembly the engines showed little or no wear. When we visited the engine shop, I did notice cases of Mobile 1 under the steel tables, so this guy must have been telling us the truth. I don't care anway, Mobile 1 works for me after six years of racing and street driving the car still runs consistant, so guess what oil I'm sticking with?

Synthetic Oil Guy
09-01-2008, 11:10 AM
Very involved but interesting reading of the links provided by 'The Guy'
Can Amsoil be purchased 5/20 vs 0/20 and can it be bought through 'regular' parts stores (Autozone etc.)
What about the question re diff. fluid?

AMSOIL isn't sold in regular retail outlets as that is not its market niche. You can purchase it from my 24 hour online store at --> www.lubedealer.com/HiTechOilCo

If you are interested, I can e-mail you a Preferred Customer account application, which will get you wholesale prices.

What is your question regarding differential fluid? I have an article on differential fluids that I can e-mail you called, "A Study of Automotive Gear Lubes". It's a very interesting article.

Synthetic Oil Guy
09-01-2008, 11:16 AM
I use Mobile 1 in my HHR. And I am very pleased. It is probably the best "Auto Store" oil availbale. But if RP can increase HP, is going in the SS. I will be getting with you when I am ready for an oil change for pricing.

Whats everybodys favorite oil filter??? I have been using Fram.


Hi Mike. :) Virtually any synthetic oil will increase power vs a petroleum oil. That's to be expected. AMSOIL increases power vs a petroleum oil too, but again, so does virtually any synthetic oil.

AMSOIL Ea oil filters are very high performing oil filters.

Synthetic Oil Guy
09-01-2008, 11:23 AM
Four Ball Wear Test
(ASTM D-4172)
The smaller the wear scar, the better the protection.
60 kg., 150 deg. C., 1,800 rpm, 1 hour duration


AMSOIL RD50----0.47

Red Line 50-Wt. ----0.51

Brad Penn 20W-50 ----------0.83

Joe Gibbs XP6 ----------------------0.86

Lucas 20W-50 ------------------------ 0.91

Valvoline 20W-50 ---------------------------0.98

Royal Purple 20W-50 ----------------------------------1.31

Torco 20W-50 --------------------------------------------- 1.91

jimj
09-01-2008, 04:25 PM
Yes, please e-mail me that art.on gear lubes.
<jjames@mountaincable.net>

Synthetic Oil Guy
09-01-2008, 05:43 PM
Yes, please e-mail me that art.on gear lubes.
<jjames@mountaincable.net>

Will do Jim. What is your e-mail addess? The article is in Adobe format and I need to attache the article to an e-mail. I can't do that here though.

MikeCio1
09-01-2008, 06:41 PM
I have always heard of Amsoil, but I never met anyone that used it. It seemed like a specialty item for racers. I was told once it was distrubuted by Amway, then another time I was told it supported a fanatic religious cult... Urban tales.

jimj
09-01-2008, 06:57 PM
Hi Steve, I'm at jjames@mountaincable.net